Course Design: Instructions, Rubrics and Evaluations

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Course Design: Instructions, Rubrics and Evaluations
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Rubrics, instructions, feedback, and evaluations all assist with our student’s mastery of content, when designed intentionally and consistently.

Laura Aboyan currently serves as the director of Curriculum Management and Assessment & Accreditation. She has previously worked at the University of South Carolina as an assessment Coordinator and at Drexel University as an Admissions Coordinator. Additionally, she has frequently worked as an Adjunct Instructor at various universities.

Patricia (Patty) Terry currently serves Temple University as the Associate Director of Curriculum Management & Assessment @ Accreditation at the Fox School of Business. She previously worked at the University of Pennsylvania Health System as the Undergraduate Medication Evaluation Coordinator.

If you have any questions you would like to have asked, or if you would like to be a part of the podcast in a later episode, please email andrew.coletti@temple.edu.

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00:00–00:03[MUSIC PLAYING]

00:07–00:09Andrew ColettiHello and welcome to this episode 

00:09–00:11of The T in Teaching.

00:11–00:14This Episode Is Focused Onbest practices for professors 

00:14–00:16In Regard To Providinginstructions, rubrics, 

00:16–00:18and feedback to students.

00:18–00:20In This Episode, Ourhost Sarah McCarthy 

00:20–00:23Interviewed LauraAboyan and Patty Terry. 

00:23–00:25Dr. Laura Aboyancurrently serves 

00:25–00:28As The Director Of CurriculumManagement and Assessment 

00:28–00:31And Accreditation As Wellas an Adjunct Instructor 

00:31–00:33In The Department OfManagement, as well 

00:33–00:35as the Department of Marketing.

00:35–00:37She Joined TheFox School in 2015 

00:37–00:40After Previously Working Inassessment and accreditation 

00:40–00:42At The Universityof South Carolina. 

00:42–00:45She Earned Her Doctorate Inhigher education from Temple 

00:45–00:46in 2021.

00:46–00:48Patty Terry Currentlyserves Temple University 

00:48–00:51As The Associate Directorof Curriculum Management 

00:51–00:53And Assessment For TheFox School of Business. 

00:53–00:55She Previously Worked At TheUniversity of Pennsylvania 

00:55–00:58Health System As TheUndergraduate Medication 

00:58–01:00Evaluation Coordinator.

01:00–01:02Thank You For Listening,and please enjoy. 

01:02–01:05[MUSIC PLAYING]

01:06–01:07Sarah MccarthyHello, and welcome back 

01:07–01:09To The Next Episodein The T in Teaching. 

01:09–01:11I'm Sarah Mccarthy,and we have two guests 

01:11–01:14From Curriculum ManagementAssessment and Accreditation. 

01:14–01:16I Will Let You Bothintroduce yourselves. 

01:16–01:17Laura AboyanThanks, Sarah. 

01:17–01:18I'm Laura Aboyan.

01:18–01:21I'm The Director Of TheCurriculum Management 

01:21–01:22Assessment AndAccreditation team. 

01:22–01:24Patty TerryI'm Patricia Terry, and I'm 

01:24–01:26The Associate Directorof the Curriculum 

01:26–01:27Management and Assessment team.

01:27–01:30Sarah MccarthyThank you both so much for joining us today. 

01:30–01:33Could You Just Tell Me A Littlebit more about your department? 

01:33–01:35Laura AboyanSo Curriculum Management Assessment 

01:35–01:37and Accreditation is what we do.

01:37–01:38And Really, It'sjust a fancy way 

01:38–01:41Of Saying Quality Assurance Forall of our academic programs 

01:41–01:42at the Fox School.

01:42–01:43Sarah MccarthyAwesome. 

01:43–01:44Well, Thank You Bothfor coming today, 

01:44–01:48Excited To Give Our Faculty Someoverview on rubrics, feedback, 

01:48–01:50any advice you guys can offer.

01:50–01:52But We Will Dive Rightinto the first question, 

01:52–01:54and either of you could start.

01:54–01:58What Advice Or Feedbackfor useful instructions, 

01:58–02:00Creating Rubrics, Settingclear expectations-- 

02:00–02:02Where Would You Havefaculty start with that? 

02:02–02:04Laura AboyanThat's a great question, 

02:04–02:06And I Think You Mentionedit in the question. 

02:06–02:07Use a rubric.

02:07–02:12If You're Doing Some Kindof project-based assignment, 

02:12–02:14A Rubric Is Going To Reallyhelp you focus in on that. 

02:14–02:18And The Key To Designing Thatreally useful rubric for both 

02:18–02:21You And Your Students Toavoid some of those questions 

02:21–02:25Is To First Identify Theobjectives of the assignment. 

02:25–02:27What Is It That You Wantyour students' completed work 

02:27–02:28to show you?

02:28–02:30You Can Tie These Toyour learning objectives. 

02:30–02:33Mostly, You Want To Try And Keepit to about 5 or 6 categories 

02:33–02:35Otherwise It Getsa little unwieldy. 

02:35–02:37So These Should Representthe most critical knowledge 

02:37–02:39And Skills That Arerequired for the assignment. 

02:39–02:43Remember That Each Trait Youuse, it should be measurable, 

02:43–02:44and it should be unique.

02:44–02:47If You Find Yourselfstruggling to exactly define 

02:47–02:50What It Looks Like Atvarious levels of mastery, 

02:50–02:53It Might Not Be A Criticalcomponent of the assignment. 

02:53–02:56Or Alternatively, If Youfind yourself looking 

02:56–02:58At Two Traits That Aresimilar but represent 

02:58–03:00Different Levelsof application, you 

03:00–03:02Want To Go With The Onethat's a little higher level. 

03:02–03:04The Lower-levelskill or knowledge 

03:04–03:07Is Generally An Inherent Partof that higher-level skill. 

03:07–03:09Patty TerryAnd I would add to that making 

03:09–03:13Sure That You Give Students Aclear idea and clear guidance. 

03:13–03:16And I Know One Of The Thingsthat we'll touch on probably 

03:16–03:19Shortly Is That It'simportant to have 

03:19–03:22Just Clear, Conciselanguage in your directions, 

03:22–03:25But Also To Rememberinternational and English 

03:25–03:28As Second Language Students Tomake sure that you're not using 

03:28–03:32Kind Of American Colloquialismand other kind of slang 

03:32–03:34That They May Notunderstand or you 

03:34–03:35May Have A Generalreference to, but they 

03:35–03:38Wouldn't Have-- So Just Makingsure that you are making 

03:38–03:40It Plain And Simplefor the students 

03:40–03:42To Understand Kindof where you want 

03:42–03:43them to go with the assignment.

03:43–03:45Laura AboyanYeah and just one more thing 

03:45–03:48That I Would Add On To That,like Patty said, you want 

03:48–03:51Your Language To Be Clearand concrete and really 

03:51–03:52student-friendly.

03:52–03:57Sometimes, As Faculty, We Getlocked into the theoretical 

03:57–03:59or the more academic speak.

03:59–04:02But You'll Be Able To Avoidquestions from your students 

04:02–04:06If You Choose Those Simple,concrete, less academic, 

04:06–04:08and less theoretical words.

04:08–04:10It Also Helps If You Canuse parallel language 

04:10–04:12Across Your Rubricscale so that-- 

04:12–04:14And Across Anyrubrics you're using 

04:14–04:16Because That Will Set Theexpectation for your students. 

04:16–04:18They'll Become Familiarwith your style, 

04:18–04:20with your expectation.

04:20–04:22And It Will Minimizesome of those questions. 

04:22–04:24You're Never Going To Eliminatethe questions entirely. 

04:24–04:26So These Are Just Some Generaltips that can help you. 

04:26–04:27Patty Terry[LAUGHS] 

04:27–04:28Laura AboyanBut really, the key 

04:28–04:29Is To Make Surethat your rubric is 

04:29–04:33Going To Reflect What Is Inyour assignment instructions. 

04:33–04:34They're companion documents.

04:34–04:36Think about them that way.

04:36–04:38So If You Can Buildit in to your class, 

04:38–04:40go over the rubric in class.

04:40–04:41Give The Studentsthe opportunity 

04:41–04:44To Ask Those Questionswhile you're there. 

04:44–04:46It'll Go A Longway to eliminating 

04:46–04:50Maybe A Large Volume Of Emailsasking the same thing over 

04:50–04:51and over again.

04:51–04:53And You Can Alsomake a short video 

04:53–04:55Going Over Your Assignmentinstructions and rubrics 

04:55–04:58So That Your Students Canrefer back to it as they 

04:58–04:59complete their assignment.

04:59–05:01Sarah MccarthyThat's a great advice, especially the video. 

05:01–05:02I like that a lot.

05:02–05:03We have Zoom.

05:03–05:05We Have All Thesetools at our disposal. 

05:05–05:07We Should Absolutelybe using them. 

05:07–05:10So When It Comes To Students,like what they need and want, 

05:10–05:11Do You Guys Have Anyfeedback on you know 

05:11–05:13clarifying within the rubrics?

05:13–05:15Or I Love How Yousaid the parallel, 

05:15–05:19And It's The Companion Documentto the assignment description. 

05:19–05:21Do You Guys Haveany advice for-- 

05:21–05:24Like From The Studentside, what they really like 

05:24–05:26To See In The Instructions,the rubrics, or even 

05:26–05:30Feedback On Their Assignmentsafter completing it? 

05:30–05:31Patty TerrySo I would say-- 

05:31–05:33I'm Currently Agraduate student, 

05:33–05:35And I Know It'ssuper helpful for me 

05:35–05:36when I receive timely feedback.

05:36–05:37Sarah MccarthyYes. 

05:37–05:39Patty TerrySo that's one thing that's a little bit important 

05:39–05:42Is To Make Sure ThatI'm not waiting weeks 

05:42–05:44Or Towards The End Of Thesemester to get the feedback, 

05:44–05:46Because It's Frustratingwhen you get that feedback 

05:46–05:49And You Realize That There Arethings that you either missed, 

05:49–05:51Or You Could Have Usedassistance and done it 

05:51–05:54In Real Time And Possibly Had Abetter grade or a better grasp 

05:54–05:56On The Concepts Thathappened in the course. 

05:56–05:59So If There's One ThingI could say about-- 

05:59–06:01On The Student Sideof what is helpful, 

06:01–06:03It's Getting Feedbackthat's timely. 

06:03–06:05Laura AboyanI would be inclined to agree. 

06:05–06:08That's What Mystudents have told me. 

06:08–06:12And Also, I Found That Themore timely the feedback, 

06:12–06:15The Less Likely They Areto make the same mistakes 

06:15–06:16in subsequent assignments.

06:16–06:18My Students Havealso told me they 

06:18–06:20Prefer Morepersonalized feedback. 

06:20–06:23So The More Personalized, Thebetter, is what I would say. 

06:23–06:25And Make Sure Thatit's constructive 

06:25–06:27So That Your Students Have Theopportunity to learn from it. 

06:27–06:30This Is Where A Rubriccan be super helpful 

06:30–06:33Because It Gives You A Startingpoint for your feedback. 

06:33–06:34You Already Know Whatyou're looking for, 

06:34–06:36And You're Able To Buildon that and point out 

06:36–06:38Specific Thingsand specific areas 

06:38–06:40Where Your Studentscan maybe improve. 

06:40–06:42They Know What'sexpected because they've 

06:42–06:46Looked At The Rubric, And Thenthat rubric points to places 

06:46–06:48Where They Could Dobetter or maybe even 

06:48–06:49places where they've excelled.

06:49–06:52It's Important Not Just Todo the constructive feedback, 

06:52–06:54But To Also Point Out Thingsthat they've done well, 

06:54–06:58Even Something As Simple As Likeincluding grammar on a rubric. 

06:58–07:01I Teach A Writingcourse, so I tend 

07:01–07:03To Fall Back On Thecommunication examples 

07:03–07:05If That Doesn't Fitwhat you're doing, 

07:05–07:08Just Try And Apply Itto what works for you. 

07:08–07:10But If Your Student Has Alot of run-on sentences, 

07:10–07:12For Example, You Canrate them accordingly, 

07:12–07:16However Your Grammar Tree Isstructured on your rubric. 

07:16–07:18And Then You Can Leave Anote on their actual work 

07:18–07:22In 1 Or 2 Places That Say, Hey,maybe you should combine these, 

07:22–07:25Or Maybe You Should Breakthis up into smaller portions, 

07:25–07:26showing them how to fix it.

07:26–07:29You Don't Necessarily Haveto do it for every instance, 

07:29–07:32But Give Them That Examplethey can follow and tell them 

07:32–07:33to keep looking through it.

07:33–07:35And Then, If Youcan, if you find, 

07:35–07:36As You're Going Throughthings, that there's 

07:36–07:39Common Things That Yourstudents are struggling with, 

07:39–07:40bring them into the classroom.

07:40–07:41Review them generally.

07:41–07:43Provide Some Kindof activity where 

07:43–07:45They Can Work On Improvingthat particular skill. 

07:45–07:46Do You Have Anythingyou wanted to add? 

07:46–07:48Patty TerryI'll piggyback off what 

07:48–07:50Laura Said About Thefeedback is really 

07:50–07:52Only Helpful If You Haveguidance to figure out 

07:52–07:53where you made mistakes.

07:53–07:57I Know, For Me, It's Veryfrustrating to get back 

07:57–07:59That You Got A 4 Out Of 5,and you have no idea where 

07:59–08:02You Missed Or Whatthe problems were, 

08:02–08:03so you can't course correct.

08:03–08:05So I Think It'simportant to make sure 

08:05–08:07That, When You'regiving that feedback, 

08:07–08:10You Don't Necessarilyhave to go line by line, 

08:10–08:11But Giving The Studentan overall idea 

08:11–08:14If They've Kind Of Met Theobjectives of the assignment 

08:14–08:15Or They Haven'tand where they need 

08:15–08:18To Bolster Up Or Get Assistanceif they're really struggling. 

08:18–08:20Laura AboyanYeah and I think the important thing 

08:20–08:23To Keep In Mind, Too, Isthat this doesn't just 

08:23–08:25hold true for rubrics.

08:25–08:27The Same Thing Istrue of exams, right? 

08:27–08:30If The Students Don't Knowwhat they got wrong on an exam, 

08:30–08:32And They Don't Know Whatthe correct answer is, 

08:32–08:36How Are They Ever Going To Beable to master that concept? 

08:36–08:38How Are They Going Tobe able to build on it 

08:38–08:40Later In Yourcourse or even later 

08:40–08:42in their own academic journey?

08:42–08:48So Make Sure You're Tellingthem where they need to improve 

08:48–08:50and so they can understand why.

08:50–08:51Sarah MccarthyAbsolutely. 

08:51–08:53Yeah, And I Lovethat you brought up 

08:53–08:55bringing it into the classroom.

08:55–08:57If One Student's Makingthe mistake multiple times, 

08:57–08:59other students probably are.

08:59–09:01Bring That In Soeveryone can kind of 

09:01–09:02benefit from that lesson.

09:02–09:02That's great.

09:02–09:03Patty TerryAnd the student realizes 

09:03–09:04They're Not Theonly person that's 

09:04–09:06Struggling With Thatconcept or that struggling with that concept or that [INAUDIBLE].. 

09:06–09:07Sarah MccarthyYeah, they don't feel singled out 

09:07–09:08or like it's just me.

09:08–09:10That's-- yeah, great points.

09:10–09:11I Love That Youbrought up exams. 

09:11–09:14That Segues Perfectlyinto my next question. 

09:14–09:17When Evaluating Students,are they really grasping 

09:17–09:19These Concepts, Are Theyready to graduate or move on 

09:19–09:23From This Class, Are Examsalways the way to go? 

09:23–09:25Laura AboyanI think it largely depends on the subject 

09:25–09:28Matter And Thelevel of the course 

09:28–09:30and also the size of the course.

09:30–09:33Determining What Assessmentis going to be the best one 

09:33–09:34takes a little work, right?

09:34–09:39And You Really Have To Startthinking through what you want 

09:39–09:41your students to be able to do.

09:41–09:43If Your Goal Is To Havethem apply their knowledge, 

09:43–09:46Are You Necessarily Goingto be able to gauge that 

09:46–09:48from performance on an exam?

09:48–09:51Or Would Some Kind Of Projector presentation-based assignment 

09:51–09:53Really Showcase Theirlearning better, 

09:53–09:55Whether That's Anindividual project or even 

09:55–09:58A Small Group Or Pairedpresentation or project. 

09:58–10:00Sometimes Not Usingexams as the default 

10:00–10:02Also Kind Of Helpsmotivate the students, 

10:02–10:04Especially If Youcan design a project 

10:04–10:07Where They're Able Tochoose a topic that they're 

10:07–10:07interested in.

10:07–10:10And We've Got A Coupleof really great examples 

10:10–10:12Of This Happening In Ourundergraduate program. 

10:12–10:13I'll talk about one.

10:13–10:14Then You Want To Talkabout the other, Patty? 

10:14–10:15Patty TerrySure. 

10:15–10:17Laura AboyanFor example, our business communication class, 

10:17–10:21Which, Full Disclosure, I'mcurrently teaching-- so again, 

10:21–10:22came straight to mind--

10:22–10:25Their Big Culminatingassignment is 

10:25–10:26to create a business proposal.

10:26–10:29They Go Through The Entireproposal process, development 

10:29–10:32Process, From Choosing A Topicthat's important to them, 

10:32–10:35Convincing Their Audiencethere is a problem, 

10:35–10:36and offering a solution.

10:36–10:38And There Have Beena couple of times 

10:38–10:40That We Can Pointto where proposals 

10:40–10:43From This Particular Coursehave actually gone on 

10:43–10:45to be expanded and implemented.

10:45–10:47Our Center For Ethics,Diversity, and Workplace 

10:47–10:52Culture, For Example, Hostedan event about a year, year 

10:52–10:54And A Half Ago CalledVoices of Pride 

10:54–10:56That Came Out Ofa student proposal 

10:56–10:59In An Honors Businesscommunication section. 

10:59–11:02Last Year, TheNational Association 

11:02–11:05Of Black Accountants Hosteda conference at Temple. 

11:05–11:08And That Came Out Of Aproposal in one of my business 

11:08–11:09communication sections.

11:09–11:12The Students Are Moreinclined to put in the effort 

11:12–11:15Because It's Somethingthat they feel connected to 

11:15–11:17And That Is Reallyimportant to them. 

11:17–11:20Patty TerryAnd one of our new courses in our redesigned 

11:20–11:24Curriculum Is Ba 1103,which is a new course that 

11:24–11:28Was Designed With Jeff Boles,who is the chair of the Legal 

11:28–11:29Studies Department.

11:29–11:33And Their Assessment, Theyuse a podcast assignment 

11:33–11:36Where Students Are Tocreate a podcast discussing 

11:36–11:39An Ethical Issue And Kind Ofcome up with their own script 

11:39–11:41and record it.

11:41–11:43And students have been--

11:43–11:45The Feedback, Anecdotally, Hasbeen really, really positive. 

11:45–11:48Students Like That Is Kindof a different assignment. 

11:48–11:51It's Not Your Typical Kindof fill out this paper exam. 

11:51–11:53But They're Stilldemonstrating what they've 

11:53–11:55learned in that modality.

11:55–11:57So It's Been Reallypositive to see 

11:57–12:00That There Are Different Waysto assess learning outside 

12:00–12:04Of Just Giving Them Amultiple-choice exam 

12:04–12:06Or High-stakesexams, which we know 

12:06–12:08From The Science Tellsus doesn't really 

12:08–12:10work in demonstrating learning.

12:10–12:14It Causes More Anxiety Forstudents to do those things. 

12:14–12:16So The Importance Ofmaking sure that, when 

12:16–12:19We're Talking About Assessmentor evaluating student learning, 

12:19–12:21Is We're Givingthem an opportunity 

12:21–12:22to demonstrate certain things.

12:22–12:24And A Lot Of Times,exams may not 

12:24–12:27Give Them The Opportunityif it's the only way 

12:27–12:29that we're looking at it.

12:29–12:31And So I Would Suggestthat, especially 

12:31–12:32For More Quantitativecourses that 

12:32–12:36Tend To Lean On Exams To Alsothink about not making them 

12:36–12:39As High Stakes Andthen also offering 

12:39–12:41Other Ways For Studentsto demonstrate learning, 

12:41–12:44So Other Homework Assignments Orwritten assignments or in-class 

12:44–12:46Assignments So That Studentsdon't feel the pressure 

12:46–12:48To Just Have To Dowell on one exam 

12:48–12:50To Do Well Or Show Whatthey've learned in the course. 

12:50–12:53Laura AboyanYeah, I would be inclined to agree with that. 

12:53–12:56We Know We're Never Going To Beable to scrap exams entirely. 

12:56–12:59They Are Important,depending on discipline, 

12:59–13:03Depending On Class Size,depending on level of course, 

13:03–13:04subject matter.

13:04–13:05We know that.

13:05–13:07But The Same Way Youwould design a rubric, 

13:07–13:09You Want To Be Thoughtfuland deliberate in how 

13:09–13:11you're designing your exam.

13:11–13:13Think About If You'reasking questions 

13:13–13:15That Are Really Reflectiveof the way you've 

13:15–13:18Presented Concepts Inclass or in homework. 

13:18–13:21Or Are You Focusing On Reallythe most important takeaways 

13:21–13:22from your course?

13:22–13:24Or Are You Just Askingquestions for the sake 

13:24–13:26of asking questions.

13:26–13:29Like Patty Was Saying, Considerthe length of your exam. 

13:29–13:30How Many Questionsdo you really, 

13:30–13:33Really Need To Ensurethat the students have 

13:33–13:34mastered the material.

13:34–13:37If You're Asking Multiplequestions about the same topic, 

13:37–13:38why?

13:38–13:40Is It Because Thattopic is directly 

13:40–13:42Part Of The Courselearning objectives? 

13:42–13:44Because It's The Most Oneof the most important things 

13:44–13:46They're Going To Takeaway from your course? 

13:46–13:48Or Is It Something Alittle more tangential 

13:48–13:51That Maybe Doesn't Needsuch a heavy emphasis on it 

13:51–13:52on an assessment?

13:52–13:54Much Like With Yourrubrics, you want the exams 

13:54–13:56To Be Focused On Themost important parts 

13:56–13:57of your courses.

13:57–13:59And The Questions Shouldbe reflective of the topics 

13:59–14:02That The Students Have Had Thechance to investigate and apply 

14:02–14:04In Other Waysthroughout the semester. 

14:04–14:06Sarah Mccarthy:This is wonderful. 

14:06–14:08So I'm Just Going To--my final question-- 

14:08–14:12As Jeff Boles Did With The1103 new course design, 

14:12–14:16If Faculty Want To Comeand redesign their exams 

14:16–14:19Or See Other Modes To Assesstheir students-- like you said 

14:19–14:21That Podcastassignment, different. 

14:21–14:22The students were engaged in it.

14:22–14:24That's what we want to do.

14:24–14:27Can Faculty Just Reachout to you guys, stop by? 

14:27–14:28Laura AboyanAbsolutely. 

14:28–14:30We Love The Opportunityto collaborate-- 

14:30–14:31Sarah Mccarthy[LAUGHS] 

14:31–14:34Laura Aboyan--if we can and help wherever we're able. 

14:34–14:37Either One Of Us Canhelp across any program, 

14:37–14:40Although We Each Have Our Ownareas that we tend to focus on 

14:40–14:42just for ease of workload.

14:42–14:46Patty Is Your Go-to Forall things undergraduates. 

14:46–14:48Whether That's A Core Courseor a course in the major, 

14:48–14:50she is here to help with that.

14:50–14:53We Kind Of Split Ourspecialized master's programs. 

14:53–14:56But Then Anything With TheMBA or the doctoral programs, 

14:56–14:58I can certainly take on.

14:58–14:59Patty TerryOur responsibilities here 

14:59–15:02Is To Really Consult Andwork with the faculty 

15:02–15:05To Deliver A Wonderful,solid educational program. 

15:05–15:08So Where The Facultyare the content experts, 

15:08–15:09were the educational experts.

15:09–15:11We're The Expertsin the delivery. 

15:11–15:13So What We Wantto do is find ways 

15:13–15:16To Help Facultydeliver in a way that 

15:16–15:18Is Palatable Forthe students, and it 

15:18–15:20Helps Them Actuallylearn the concepts 

15:20–15:21that they're trying to relay.

15:21–15:24So The Important Thing,I think, to remember 

15:24–15:26Is That We're Here Towork with the faculty, 

15:26–15:29Not Tell Them How To Teach, Butwork with them on making sure 

15:29–15:31That They're Doing The Teachingin the most effective manner. 

15:31–15:32Sarah MccarthyAbsolutely. 

15:32–15:36Laura AboyanSo they can just send either one of us an email 

15:36–15:38or stop by our offices.

15:38–15:41We're Both Here A Fewdays a week in person, 

15:41–15:43And We're Located Inthe dean's office. 

15:43–15:45So anybody, please come on by.

15:45–15:46We love company.

15:46–15:46Sarah MccarthyAbsolutely. 

15:46–15:48Well, Thank You Bothfor coming today. 

15:48–15:50This Is-- I'm Sure Thefaculty-- this is very helpful 

15:50–15:53As We Get Into Thesemester, we start 

15:53–15:54Thinking About Ourcourses, anything we 

15:54–15:56might need to change or update.

15:56–15:58These Are Wonderfulsuggestions and feedback 

15:58–15:59for the faculty to consider.

15:59–16:01So Thank You Both So Muchfor joining us today. 

16:01–16:01Patty TerryThank you. 

16:01–16:02Laura AboyanThanks for having us. 

16:02–16:04Patty TerryThank you for having us. 

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